› Forums › Buy & Sell › Parts (& cars) for sale › 020 Rod Gearbox
Hi guys. Bought I G reg syncro 5dr with a G60 engine mated to a rod change gearbox. The gearbox is fitted with a low ratio differential. ie low top speed. Would anyone know if the diff from a 16v corrado cable change gearbox would fit the rod box or alternatively where to get a G60 syncro box without costing the Earth.
The 02C (cable change) diff will not fit the 020 (rod change) gearbox but the 8v GTI diff will fit.
However it is not worth doing all the work to change the diff as the 020 box wont last very long with a G60 motor in front of it,
Ideally you need an 02C box.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Rallye-Golf-G60-Getriebe-ASU-16v-VR6-Turbo-Syncro_W0QQitemZ330371096449
http://cgi.ebay.de/Getriebe-VW-Passat-Syncro_W0QQitemZ330103357603
http://cgi.ebay.de/Rallye-Golf-G60-Syncro-Getriebe-ASU-170TKM-1H-160PS_W0QQitemZ350269914310
http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Passat-G60-Syncro-Getriebe-AYR_W0QQitemZ110448733921
what he said
Thanks Chris for the info.
I already have a receipt with the car for a gearbox rebuild so it clearly not strong enough. think I’ll fit an 02c box.
btw I am not saying that it won’t work, just that it wont work for very long, one day in the not to distant future you will drop the clutch at the traffic lights and there will just be a big bang & possibly a spreading oil pool,
also the 02C gearbox has a 230mm clutch while the 020 box only has a 210mm plate,
please don’t forget that most of our parts are at least 20 years old with who knows how many miles on them,
realistically its no wonder that they fail when we use/abuse them by putting far more power through them than the original VW spec and long after their original design life expectancy !
how many Fords or Vauxhalls of this age do you see? [] yes, exactly
with my car I have a chiptuned & cammed 8V GTI motor with about 125/130 bhp & personally I consider that to be very near the limit for a 4wd 020 rodchange box, in the past 10,000 kilometers I have had to be low loader recovered when I broke the transfer box and recently I lost 5th gear, (which I am not even going to repair) as at the moment I have a set of VR6 gears & shafts and a cast iron (original Rallye) transfer box & internals just waiting for me to build them up into/onto an 02C Syncro bellhousing
I haven’t fully decided what way I am going to keep the car. I might fit a TDi engine to it, but then its not my everyday transport so fuel comsumption is not realy the issue. I know that if I keep the G60 lump in it I will have to fit the 02C box.
I was watching beetle crisis on discovery channel last night, when one of the guys said of rebuilding his Beetle
“This is such a big job that you only want to be doing it once, even though it may take a bit longer it makes sense to do it right first time”
Also it is torque and not power which destroys gearboxes & clutches and the diesel motor is not to different in the torque department than the G60 motor,
Golf 2 G60 has 225 newtonmeters of torque at 3800 rpm, while the
Golf 4 1900 diesel has between 210 and 320 nm at 1900 rpm depending on motor code
and as torque is also calaculated by the engine revs it is produced at, this actually makes even the lesser powered diesel nearly twice as torquey as the G60 motor! []
all figures in this post are from here
http://www.doppel-wobber.de/wbb2/jgs_portal.php?id=119